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Sim and I are having an on going conversation about the treadmills. Is it really the same to run 3 miles on a treadmill as it is to run 3 miles outside where the ground is not already moving underneath you?
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  1. abu Says:

    Imagine a really big tread mill, one that an airplane can sit on. Now, an airplane pulls onto the “runway” and hits the throttle. We turn on the treadmill, and keep it going just the right speed so the airplane just sits there on those numbers (the ones they have at the end of runways.) Does the airplane take off, or does it just sit there until it falls off the end of the treatmill (into the Severn River)

  2. momdi Says:

    so it snowed and at 6:30 a.m. i heard isaac and zion padding around getting dressed to go out and get in some snow time before school, then the baby’s mother called and wasnt going to brave the snow so i went with them to walter’s pond and slid and plowed snow off the ice with the sled. after awhile i headed out to the white pine forest, discovered that i was being followed and we all rolled under the fence together and trotted down to the pines. we discovered that the ice storm had taken down one huge pine and neatly snipped alot of branches off some others. then we dropped on downhill to the ‘creek’ and followed it back to the place that you crawl under the fence, then along peaches’s fence where tobias entertained us with the hog-nosed snake. when we got to the fence of the pond pasture i headed for the corner of peaches’s drive and the boys headed to the pond to retrieve their sleds. as i walked home on the county road i pondered a question, very similar to the one that simeon proposed. “is a hard, fast, one half hour walk, up hill and down on the county road as nourishing to health as an hours ramble over hill and dale?” i didnt feel as challenged by the amble but concluded that the soul enlivening excursion was sure to have brought way more life to my mortal being than the cardiac event that fit the description of the precription for health. man is much more than the sum total of his physical being and we err if we try to care for one part with out considering the whole. it is my studied opinion that the physical can’t be well unless the rest, the large, important and invisible part is well. so ooo said lalo, sing and dance on your treadmill, read books of jokes and listen to alexander scourby read the psalms and recall those glorious moments when you felt fully alive and pretend that you are chasing your brother or retreating waves across the sands of assateague while you walk.

  3. florence nightengalemomdi Says:

    so tonite we went to rolla to take a first aid and cpr class to get certified as a prerequsite for caring for someone in our home,, you know the gov. needs to cover its butt and keep a healthy segment of the country employed so we had an instructor who knew how to run the remote and told us that the proper way to do things had changed since last year so we watched a video that i think was made for dim witted third graders and mostly didnt practice when the video said to practice,( on our plastic victims, oh no never do this on a person !? ) partly because any one could see that 8 out of the 12 people were not really able to get down on the floor and 10 out of 12 would need a crane to get up again. bill and i appeared to be the jocks of the group. so then we went and took the test. the instructor told us that we could only get 2 wrong in each section but if we didnt know the answers that she would tell us what the answers were.. very helpful.. sorry i’ve been out of mainstream education so long that i didnt realize that it was more important to memorize the little memory aids than it was to actually know what to do in an emergency..and since i'’m red cross certified now it is very important to know that in the event of an emergency i am only allowed to do those things that i’m trained to do…and none of those other helpful things that life has taught me.. o.k. o.k. sarcasm is not becoming…guess i should be encouraged that if this is the real world that i’ve been missing for the last 30-50 years i’m doing o.k.
    just dont anyone fall,burn themselves or have a stroke, heart attack, heat stroke or seizure in rolla mo…i hear that the class on how to not let an irate and irrational person beat you up is more interesting..i cant wait..

  4. debbi digennaro Says:

    To Tobias
    Well, you’ve made a good point. But I thought it was the Potomac, wasn’t it? The main energy expended by running is
    1. keeping your legs moving under you and absorbing the shock of falling over and over
    2. Rolling resistance on your feet
    3. Wind resistance
    So no, you really need a big fan to blow wind on you at 6.3 miles an hour.

    But momdi also has very good point, which is why you live in Missouri, the pen is mightier than the sword, and “the kingdoms of this world are become the kingdoms of our Lord, etc.,” [To explain:I have a shirt that says “in bombs we trust” with a list of military campaigns and massacres on the back. No, silly, of course he didn’t mean to love your enemies, bombs work much better]. But, for a cheesy quote from I don’t know what movie that I’m sure momdi wouldn’t approve of “life isn’t about how many breaths you take, but the moments that take your breath away.” I’m sure that’s what Priska thinks when she falls off a chair, which she is getting quite skilled at.

  5. abu Says:

    [in bombs we trust]
    Reminds me of the old hymn:

    Love your enemies who hate you,
    That’s what Jesus had to say.
    But we’ve found it more efficient,
    Just to blow them all away.
    Opression calls for justice,
    So we bring them judgment day.
    We are the Wrath of God!…

  6. Caseihman81 Says:

    I wonder if it is of any note that while on a treadmill your body is not actually going anywhere, I would think that actually propelling a mass along a distance uses more fuel than just flopping your legs to keep up with a spinny rubber mat. But then I don’t have a red cross degree in engineering nor am I ceritfied by the fed. govt to administer CPR to a burned, drowning, stroke victim who is having a heart attack while irrationally beating me up.

  7. simanelle Says:

    To abu’s first comment, why have they not installed giant tread mills on aircraft carriers? Then they could have really high ground speed before they left the boat.

  8. abu Says:

    CaseIHman, keeping a mass moving doesn’t take any energy–it’s powered by Newton’s Laws (a mass in motion tends to stay in motion). There isn’t a good way to tell if you are moving or not except looking at things going past. Which begs the question, Are you moving, or are your surroundings moving? The water in your glass only sloshes when the train changes speed–it can’t tell that you are traveling at 60 mph.

    [aircraft carriers]
    Yes, they would have a high ground speed , but groundspeed isn’t what keeps planes in the sky—it’s the airspeed. So rather than a treadmill, a windtunnel would be more helpful.

  9. Aunt N Says:

    Okay, it is for such entertainment as this that I commission someone to hook up the Patriarch Schlabach to internet, teach him the basics of running a mouse, enlarge the view of his screen and make access to his families’ blogs grandpa-friendly. This would be the highlight of his day. His brother Pater does internet stuff all the time, but Dad insists he couldn’t master it. And I’m convinced it would be harder for him than any of us could imagine, but POSSIBLE, and bring life to his years.